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Heather said: "It seems that it would speed along lunchlines. A lot of parents already have their kids fingerprinted in case they ever get snatched, but I doubt I'd want my kids to get fingerprinted just to eat lunch."
Heather said: "[QUOTE=cvalh]So, there's something no one has mentioned yet that I want to bring up... It's said that everyone has a totally unique fingerprint. Essentially, this is true, but our technology isn't really exact enough to detect all the finest differences.
When police scan fingerprints, the database normally matches a number of different possible records. Very rarely do you find an exact match - and police are likely to have the best equipment. Schools CERTAINLY won't be that fine-tuned.
So, while I would imagine that most of the students at a school will have fairly unique fingerprints, it is possible that you can get kids with very similar ones that the machine won't be able to distinguish.[/QUOTE]
Good point. I wonder if the parents have to sign some sort of privacy agreement type of deal in order to use this system.. I'd imagine that they'll have to flush out the system every school year to stay current?"
cvalh said: "I like the debit card idea... We had the punch cards (daily, weekly, or monthly) in my elementary school. In my middle school, we just paid each day. This fingerprinting idea creeps me out."
cvalh said: "So, there's something no one has mentioned yet that I want to bring up... It's said that everyone has a totally unique fingerprint. Essentially, this is true, but our technology isn't really exact enough to detect all the finest differences.
When police scan fingerprints, the database normally matches a number of different possible records. Very rarely do you find an exact match - and police are likely to have the best equipment. Schools CERTAINLY won't be that fine-tuned.
So, while I would imagine that most of the students at a school will have fairly unique fingerprints, it is possible that you can get kids with very similar ones that the machine won't be able to distinguish."
spectrachic311 said: "It strikes me as a little overboard, but I remember having lunch tickets too and it was always a pain if you lost them or if someone took them out of your backpack. Once I got into middle school/high school, the school issued us a sort of debit card for lunch that you could put funds on and then it got swiped at the lunch line when you wanted to pay. I think that system worked pretty well so I don't know why they'd do a fingerprint system."
naynay said: "[QUOTE=cvalh]So, there's something no one has mentioned yet that I want to bring up... It's said that everyone has a totally unique fingerprint. Essentially, this is true, but our technology isn't really exact enough to detect all the finest differences.
When police scan fingerprints, the database normally matches a number of different possible records. Very rarely do you find an exact match - and police are likely to have the best equipment. Schools CERTAINLY won't be that fine-tuned.
So, while I would imagine that most of the students at a school will have fairly unique fingerprints, it is possible that you can get kids with very similar ones that the machine won't be able to distinguish.[/QUOTE]
i agree good point"
Diamond said: "[QUOTE=DrCOOL959]I actually like the idea, like many have said, kids loose things. I remember loosing tons of important stuff for school.
Heck even now I still have problems. my wallet is chained to my pants, otherwise I'd sit it down and loose it some place....I put a spare key to my car inside my wallet, because I've been known to lock my keys in the car, sometimes with the car running....sigh!
So as far as finger print scanning I am all for it. If the kid looses his finger, then he has bigger issues at ....hand.... than gettin lunch.. :dazed052: :)[/QUOTE]
LOL. Maybe they can use his other finger then?"
Diamond said: "I happened to catch that a few different school systems have started using fingerprints for students to pay for their school lunches. I think this is a weird way to do things.
[QUOTE]Schools who use the fingerprint software system, called biometrics technology, say swiping fingers increases speed in lunch lines and helps schools keep a more accurate count of how many students are served meals.
Distributors of the software said the systems typically cost between $1,000 and $5,000 per cafeteria line register.
Critics have raised questions about the security and privacy of the technology.[/QUOTE]
What are your thoughts on using a kids fingerprint to pay for lunch? A little too big brother or something that makes life easier?
We used to carry little tickets that got punched. That always seemed like an okay way to me. I know one of the members here (Sorry I can't remember who) works in a school cafeteria and was curious if their school district was using them?"
Diamond said: "[B]You're the one I was thinking of when I posted this, Fit4me[/B]
Thanks for your reply. You must have a really good memory to be able to know all the kids names, especially since the new year brings in a whole new class! I'm sure this adds a special touch to your lunch room.
I don't think that many school districts are using this system, just a few in Ohio if I remember correctly. Here is the link to it:
[URL="http://www.wlwt.com/news/13941371/detail.html"]http://www.wlwt.com/news/13941371/detail.html[/URL]"
mahesh67 said: "I think it is a bit creepy TBH."
DrCOOL959 said: "I actually like the idea, like many have said, kids loose things. I remember loosing tons of important stuff for school.
Heck even now I still have problems. my wallet is chained to my pants, otherwise I'd sit it down and loose it some place....I put a spare key to my car inside my wallet, because I've been known to lock my keys in the car, sometimes with the car running....sigh!
So as far as finger print scanning I am all for it. If the kid looses his finger, then he has bigger issues at ....hand.... than gettin lunch.. :dazed052: :)"
fit4me said: "[SIZE="3"]I work in our H.S. in the Food Service dept. {Otherwise known as a lunch lady.} I prep food along with running a computerized cash register. We are currently using ID cards for getting the kids through the lunch lines. They each have a account that they can put money into to use strictly for lunches.
The only problem with using ID cards, {which are swiped over a computer sensor wand} is that the kids either lose them or just don't carry them after awhile. It certainly does make paying for lunch and getting through the lunch line a more expedient procedure. But if they don't have their card, you must type in their name manually to access their account. There are a large number of kids who just bring cash, which can also make for a fast transaction. To be honest, I have never heard of using fingerprinting for an aid in accessing lunch accounts. I am not sure how I would feel about that. Along with any software program, there are ALWAYS bugs to be worked out especially once the program has been put into use, and I guess that would be a huge consideration for me. I suppose the one positive side to using fingerprinting is that kids usually don't lose track of their fingertips....:whacky011:
Personally, what makes the lunch line most fast for me is that after awhile I get to know the kids names by memory. I can type in a last name pretty fast, which will bring up a list of names with that particular last name and then just pick their first name from the list. And the kids really like it when they realize you have remembered their name. Especially when you have about on average of 500 kids coming through any one of 4 registers to pay for their lunch. I just love getting to know all the kids, and this year will be especially fun for me because I have a daughter who is a Senior this year, and my youngest, my son who will be a Freshman. You might think that a mom is the last thing that kids want to see when they are at school, but it is really the opposite. My kids like that I am not far from them at anytime while they are at school. They come up to see me after their lunch and they usually bring a ton of their friends just to chat. Well, I have gotten a little off track here, but I am kinda hoping we just keep our system for lunches that we have. [/SIZE]"
RudyOrtiz67 said: "I think this might infringe on privacy rights."
penny6 said: "I don't like this idea at all. It isn't as bad as that RFID tagging thing, but whenever I think of fingerprints I think of prisoners. Like Cval said, a debit card sounds like a better idea to me. Cash would always work, but probably a lot of kids would skip lunch and spend it on something else instead."