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spectrachic311 said: "I saw this article on the blog I frequently visit. It made me sad, too. It also makes me sick that you have to pass tests to be allowed to drive a car, but anyone can be a parent. Even people that SHOULDN'T. If a kid begs you for food, your job as a parent is to either say "no" or provide something somewhat healthy. Not just give the kid candy and cake and whatnot just because he "wants" it. Kids don't have the sense to know what's healthy and what's not...it's the parents' job to educate them about nutrition.
I don't think the government should have to intervene, though. That's completely ridiculous."
shy_doll said: "I agree that the government sticks its nose into too many areas of our personal lives it doesn't need to be...BUT, this child being this obese is child abuse. Isn't it basically just as abusive or neglectful as a child found the same age but weighing only 40 pounds or so? Those parents would be picked up and that child taken out of the home for starving them....well feeding them till they look like they're gonna explode is just as awful in my opinion. Both avenues lead to eventual death if not taken seriously. I don't know what to do though. The parents really need parenting classes, nutrition classes, and whatever else they can be offered. They could probably benefit from seeing with their actual eyes what that excess weight is doing to their child on the inside. I believe it all boils down to laziness. "Here, have another doughnut so I don't have to listen to ya....or here, have this fast-food burger so I don't have to cook you any dinner tonite" I know that's the problem with my sister and my nephew. He is severely overweight...he has high blood pressure, migraines, knee pains...he can't run around the neighborhood with his friends or his knees start hurting or he needs his inhaler because he can't breathe. And in all honesty, it's because my sister is lazy and food easily comforts...since birth. She would feed him over and over and over as a baby if he cried. Food is the only thing she uses for comfort. And as he has gotten older it has gotten worse because now it's a bad habit for him, but she refuses to help him make the changes needed. She, herself is overweight, not as badly as him, but she is. I do think she is neglectful by allowing him to eat all this bad food...she is the one who buys it. And I do think it's a form of abuse. If he was skin and bones with a sunken face and black rings under his eyes from being starved the welfare would be all over her, but since he's obese I guess they figure that's ok...Pure B.S. to me, but that's just my opinion."
DBrew said: "I think it is really strange that the mother knows all of this food is poor nutrition but refuses to do anything about it. If you know you are setting your child up for diabetes and heart problems, maybe you should think about changing that and if you do not or you will not, maybe you should let someone else change it. I was an obese child and my parents did nothing about it. I do not think I should have been taken away from them or anything but maybe the gov. could offer community classes to educate people for free.
I agree with what you are saying about parenthood, shorti. I was 20 with my first baby and was very unprepared. I did the best I could and everything worked out but if I could have had him at an older age, I think we both would have benefitted from it.
ANother thing the government could do is start offering healthy fare at every public school. When Ilook at the monthly menus at my son's school I think "there is no way this stuff is healthy". It makes me really glad I pack his lunch!"
Matt_9 said: "It could be my youth, but I see nothing wrong with the government taking means to potentially remove that child from his house. 200 pounds at 8 years old is setting this kid up for all sorts of medical problems down the road. It's even hindering proper development and it IS a form of child abuse. The article said the mother "refused" to stop giving him junk food."
Valalor said: "that is nuts... i wana get healthyer and eat right now so when i have kids i can make sure they eat right and dont get fat.....
and i'm glad that the U.S isnt the only country that has a governement that isnt trying to control everything now... I mean for crying out loud, your kid is being a total brat in the super market and you give him a good smack on the butt and god forbid, you have 20 people calling the police... That there is called disaplin, you're not "beating" your kid... I remember one day i was at a supermarket and a kid was screaming and yelling cuz they couldnt get what they want and the mom spanked her kid, not bad but enough that when she says no she ment it and the kid understood. well another lady next to her saw it and said she's going to call child serveses and the cops on her. OMG I'm so glad i heard and saw that, I went off on that lady like nothing else.. No one has a right to tell another one how to raise there kids, maybe sugestions but that. GRRRR makes me mad... I was spanked when I was a kid and i think i turned out great, i wasnt beaten, but when i misbehaved, I got what i had coming to me... Now days, you got kids running wild cuz parents dont punish them, ya i dont have kids yet, but i see whats going on... *sigh*, but the governemtn telling you how to raise your kids, how to eat, what to do, soon they'll tell us where to work, how to walk, how to talk... if anyone has ever read 1984, starting to head in that direction..... ugg i hate the governemtn.. theres my 2 cents. now off to the gyme. later. XD"
Valalor said: ":angry: I agree with that part, feeding your kids junk and them getting fat is child abuse cuz you know its not healthy.... And I do think the government does need to regulate some things with food too. Maybe not advertise fast food on tv or something just for the fact that is one of the main reasons lot of people are over weight in the US, its a quick easy fix for a meal that is very very unhealthy... But then again it probly wont stop there... I really think people have gone to far and if it doesnt start to get fixed soon, it will get worse and it never will get fixed... I still hate the government though... :angry:"
Valalor said: "I do agree that if the parents dont do something to keep their child healthy someone should step in.. what i was saying early was that the government is getting carried away with certain things... I just dont understand that these people dont see that they are going to die at a young age or not live life to the fullest.. for example.. I was at walmart with my g/f last week and we saw to lady's in those moble carts.. really big ladies... well my g/f use to work there and saw them all the time and they can walk just fine, but they are so lazy and fat they do not wana walk so they use those carts.. stuff like that kinda ticks me off.. I know i'm fat and over wieght, but damn, thats just pathetic. or seeing this family at burgerking or mcDs and all of them are huge.. come on people. think, ya it taste good but look at you...!!! *sigh* at least we all here are trying to gain control of our lives and alot of everyone here has already and is trying to help others do the same and for that. i salute you all!!:th_dblthumb2:"
lakelady said: "I agree with valalor. Government interference in family life is destroying the very fabric of what made our country great to begin with, starting with parenting! Everyone always complements me on how remarkable my children are. Sorry to brag, but it's true. (OK, OK I'm not [I]THAT[/I] sorry.) If I'd had to raise them under the same restrictions that young parents face today, they wouldn't [I]BE[/I] so remarkable. The government doesn't allow parents TO parent anymore. They're taking that role unto themselves...and they're doing a TERRIBLE job! In our daily lives, we all need to question loudly when we see this type of interference or it's only going to get worse!"
lakelady said: "[QUOTE=Matt_9]It could be my youth, but I see nothing wrong with the government taking means to potentially remove that child from his house. 200 pounds at 8 years old is setting this kid up for all sorts of medical problems down the road. It's even hindering proper development and it IS a form of child abuse. The article said the mother "refused" to stop giving him junk food.[/QUOTE]
Of course you're right Matt, if it stopped there, but it never does. It's not this particular case we 'old' people are worried about, it's the precedent of letting the government into every aspect of our private lives. Pretty soon all children will be taken at birth to be raised by the collective, and the individualites that combine to make our country so strong will be a thing of the past. You're right, it IS your youth. Old people like me have seen more."
lakelady said: "Oh, I agree that childhood obesity is a HUGE problem. I just don't think we should look to the government to solve it. It's definitely the parents responsibility to nip childhood obesity in the bud. I just don't think it's right for the government to say, "don't let your child get fat" with one side of their mouth and, "but you can only discipline them the way WE say" with the other."
DrCOOL959 said: "That is nuts!.....you should not be morbidly obese at 8years old................
The kid weighs more than I do currently, and 50lbs shy of my highest weight.......only difference is I'm in my 20's and he is friggin 8!!!!!!
Man these stories always get me so angry at the parents, I will give her some respect since he has lost 20lbs, and she might be trying more than the article is giving credit but it shouldn't have gotten that far, not unless he had a medical condition, and they didn't mention one so.....
Another thing that is amazing to me,is how can they physically put on that much weight that fast!, like that other thread about the girl weighing 400lbs at 7years old......JUST WHAT KIND OF DIET, puts on weight like that with such hast. You think it would be obvious to the parents that they are over doing it...."
DrCOOL959 said: "True, but not all parents are created equal, there are some parents, that are friggin wackos. We all have seen the news in the past. I heard about some mom who was dieting her newborn so he wouldn't get fat...anorexic toddlers!.. I mean it goes both ways.
Some parents don't want to bother, wether you try to help them or not, in that situation what is there left but the government? If the parents won't change anything, and say "I'll give my baby whatever he/she wants" Someone has to slap em, be it the law/gov, or a group or something because I hate to spit out this little bit of information but obesity costs us all! Whether your fat or not."
**Shorti** said: "[B][U]Obese Child Can Stay with Mother[/U][/B]
[U]CNN Article:[/U]
Direct Link: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/02/27/obese.child.reut/[/url]
(I used a link instead of the article its because I read that might be plagarism! eek! Didnt want to make trouble for the site so I edited it to give full credit to the media source.)
This article is so sad to me. Sad that a boy is being harmed, sad that his family is so torn on how to fix the problem, and finally sad that the government now has to intervene. While I am a supporter of getting obesity under control, it kinda scares me the level of government interference on the horizon. The government is increasing its presence inside the family home... first with physical dicipline, then with smoking, and now with eating habits for familes. While I agree people need education... is this going too far? When did parnets cease to learn how to be parents, and when did the government step in? Education, education, education!! This is why I oppose ignorant reproduction. Don't have kids unless you do a significant self assessment, both physcially, mentally, and financially. I know this isnt possible every time but I think we all need to practice more responsible breeding. (sorry if that offends anyone but thats my honest opinion, I think people are increasingly less pre-pared for parenthood...yet having more and more children.)"
**Shorti** said: "I am also wary about government interference in the home, but I think child obesity is becoming a form of child abuse. If he was like 5-20 lbs overweight I dont think it would be important enough for the government to interfere. but 200lbs?? I think this form of child abuse is so new that its is going to take a while for government and the general public to come to a concensus on what defines child abuse when it comes to obesity. This issue is going to all come to a head in the next 10 years.
Which is why we need to do everything possible to stop the progression of this epedemic, so maybe we can possibly cut this thing in the butt now before we have to start setting up a system to deal with it."